Flamethrower

QUESTION: How does Flamethrower interact with Custom Ammunition's damage bonus when engaged with multiple enemies?

Here's my situation: Leo Anderson is engaged with a non-monster enemy with fight 3 and a monster enemy with fight 2. He has a Flamethrower with Custom Ammunition attached. Leo succeeds on his fight action and now wants to distribute damage. From my reading, when I distribute a point of damage to the monster enemy, an additional point of damage is dealt as well (Non-monster 3 pts, Monster 1pt + bonus 1pt). Correct?

Which naturally leads to other questions: If I am engaged with two enemies both of which have the monster trait, do I add +1 damage to each monster enemy (3 and 3)? Or do I get 1pt of bonus damage added to the base 4 only to distribute across monster enemies? If one enemy has the monster trait and one enemy does not, do I not get the bonus damage at all, simply because a non-monster enemy will be receiving damage? Does it matter if the enemy with the highest fight is the one with the monster trait?

JSnarK · 8
In your scenario, the attack you're making is against a non-monster; the fact that it distributes some damage to a monster is irrelevant, since custom ammunition only cares about what the attack is made against. Conversely, if the monster were 3 and the humanoid were 2, you would get the bonus damage, to distribute as you please, even to non-monsters. While flamethrower feels like it attacks all enemies, in fact it only attacks one, and custom ammunition only cares about the types on the one enemy you're attacking. Obviously if you're given the choice between a monster and non-monster target, then, you'll get some added damage by choosing the monster. At least, that's my analysis. — SGPrometheus · 841
Additionally, in a hypothetical case where a weapon actually did allow you to make multiple attacks in one action, the bonus damage would be applied separately for each target, depending on if it were a monster. — SGPrometheus · 841
Thanks for the reply! So then there's only one attack and that attack does +1 damage to the target of the attack as a result of Custom Ammunition, then the 4 damage are distributed as normal. Or does the fact that you're doing the 4 damage "instead — JSnarK · 8
Or does the fact that you're doing the 4 damage "instead," mean that you ignore the +1 damage from Custom Ammunition that would be applied to standard damage? — JSnarK · 8
I'm 3 months late, but Flamethrower says right on it that any additional damage adds to the total you can distribute - so if you have Custom Ammunition attached and the highest fight enemy engaged with you is a Monster, you distribute 5 damage. — Thatwasademo · 58
Custom amunition never says the attack has to be done against a monster. Flamethrower distributes 4 damages, and Custom ammunition adds a +1 to each monster chosen by this effect. — NotSure · 22
Shotgun

Poor Shotgun. Never did it shine.

Dunwich was released, bringing with it Lightning Gun, a king who reigned for two years. While the shotgun might do 10 damage in 2 shots, this was still an unsure bet, netting all 5 damage was a struggle compared to the nonchalant unaided ease a Lightning Gun did 3. Securing hits was just that much better.

M1918 BAR made its appearance in the latter half of Forgotten age, challenging the king and pissing all over Shotgun as a weapon that could with tremendous reliability do the damage shotgun was supposed to be the best at: lots of damage in just 1 or 2 shots.

And now finally, Flamethrower has taken the seat of the king, outpacing all three guns with hilarious efficiency at the measly cost of not being able to wear a Bandolier.

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So, where does my dour opinion of Shotgun come from?

Here: The hypothetical target is a 4-fight 4-hp foe, you're a Roland Banks, the classic , and you're toting an Overpower. With the card committed and a shot from the gun, you shoot with +9 to hit, against the 4 fight foe you're at an advantage of +5. Now, you might draw something like a -2, skulls and cultists often have this penalty and the standard deck often has 2 of these, so a very common number, the net result is that you beat the target by 3, meaning that the thing you just shot with half your ammo from a 4xp card and a skill is still alive, the token was far from terrible and still the monster is alive and kicking. Add a Beat Cop to that equation and you're back at square 1 if you drew a -3 or a special token that at the moment has a larger penalty (as is usually the case with harder, latter half of campaign, scenarios).

I'm no fan of power creep or OP weapons like the Flamethrower, but the Shotgun just doesn't perform as advertised, it never has.

Tsuruki23 · 2568
Also the art's pretty wonky. Does that shotgun have a pistol grip? And why is the stock in his armpit? Maybe that explains the +3 to fight instead of a larger bonus. — SGPrometheus · 841
There's heaps of ways to taboo this card to make it viable. Higher combat bonus, lower EXP/resource costs, more ammo, some combination. Make it +5 combat and that'd probably be right, even if they did that and increased the EXP cost. Will they taboo it like they did the Springfeild M1903? I love the theme and mechanics of Shotgun, They ought to breathe new life into this card. — shenaniganz11 · 40
Cyclopean Hammer says hi. — ratnip · 68
The shotgun depicted is I believe an Auto-5, which does have a pistol grip. Can't speak to how they're holding it. — codemonkey · 1
Now that we have Cleaning Kit, Venturer and Custom Modifications, it seems downright debilitating to take any other weapon when I could be dealing 5 damage with Shotgun with every action. — Minethlos · 3
Joe Diamond

This has got to be one of the strongest investigators in the game. I'll tell you why.

TL:DR. Joe gets things done, his 2 main stats contribute directly to solving the 2 major challenges that ArkhamLcg tends to put in your way: Clues and enemies. The low is a challenge to navigate sometimes, but the speed at which he deals with a scenario tends to make up for that.

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Joe's abilities are fairly straightforward despite the dramatic change in deckbuilding they represent.

You benefit from a secondary deck that you "draw" from every round in addition to your main deck, cards in the secondary deck, or hunch deck, get a hefty discount but have the disadvantage of unpredictability, since the card might disappear and not reappear in a timely fashion. The hunch deck is a fantastic place to put a variety of support mechanics that extend your survivability or give you healthy amounts card draw, free clues or even free movement. As this deck gets thinner, the more likely you are to find each mechanic, which is why in my opinion -Fast- cards are even better then usual when put in the hunch deck, because they are more easily playable at any given moment. Keep in mind that while this mechanic can be unpredictable, it is still an additional card option to play every single round, you effectively get to draw all your support cards for free without dudding the draws that might net you a key weapon or friend.

Because the hunch deck is not set in stone, it isn't a terrible idea to have 12 insights in your deck so that you may swap them around a bit.

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So, ability broken down. Lets look at the stats, these are the secret behind Joe's great strength.

  • 2 serves to do not much at all. Even with cards in your potential cardpool like Physical Training, Take the Initiative and obviously, Guts, you're bound to take horror at a higher rate and to suffer the effects of many treacheries, this is why Logical Reasoning is a great card to bring. Thankfully you wont generally be relying on willpower to do stuff so this stat is not going to slow you down TOO much, just worry about not dying! Lucky for Joe, he's also got access to a lineup of cheap and horror-tanky allies and Dr. Milan Christopher which makes cards like Charisma and Calling in Favors extra juicy for him. In solo where you need to do all the things by yourself Higher Education makes it a bit easier to tacke scenario specific tests, this is still not a particularly high-priority upgrade.

  • 4 makes Joe able to grab clues from just about anywhere with a little support from his faction. Intellect is one of the key stats in advancing the scenario and having a good score here means that this character can advance a scenario relatively fast.

  • 4 is the other stat that has perennially contributed to scenario completion. If a scenario isn't completed by gathering clues, chances are that it's beaten by killing something, not to mention the importance of being able to deal with threats, which is apt to do. The weapon selection is not quite the best, but note that there is access to Strange Solution and .45 Automatic, put these two together along with Vicious Blow and your ability to deal with enemies goes through the roof!

  • 2. The real dump stat, once in a blue moon an agility test will be required by something that deals health damage (we don't really care) or an enemy must be evaded. Outside of Forgotten age the odds that we test this stat intentionally is pretty much 0.

This here is why Joe Diamond is so strong. While the and arent great, he simultaneously enjoys an of 4, probably the most important stat for progressing a scenario, and 4, the other most important stat for progressing scenarios. While you'll steadily take damage and horror and bad effects in the mythos phase, you're unstoppable in the investigator phase. And dont forget that the hunch deck is still there giving you free moves, healing and clues.

In short, like the previously released Finn Edwards, you have a disadvantage in your statline, but you have all the tools you need to cover the weakness along with a statline that allows you to brutalize scenarios. Except this time you also pull from the best cardpool for on one hand, the cards, and the best cardpool for on the other, .

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Joe's and signature cards aren't worth too much attention.

The recurses your hunch cards, I recommend generally using it on cards like Working a Hunch or Shortcut so that they might be played immediately when you find them again.

Unsolved Case is an incredibly soft weakness. Often its just a couple lost actions and a couple lost resources. At the very worst you'll find yourself with Unsolved Case exposed while you don't have any actions to spend on it or in a circumstance where the dropped clue is going to cost several actions. The upside to these is always "Oh well, it's just 2 xp."

Detective's Colt 1911s Do their job sufficiently. Note the errata for Leo Anderson's unique asset affects this card as well, allowing for playing the tools first, then the guns. An extra gun is never bad and by the time your hunch deck is full of fast card-draw, Joe can slim down his weapon selection to just a couple, especially if you also found the time to gain Strange Solution. Joe's weapon selection can very naturally go from 2x.45 Automatic and 2xMachete to 2x.45 Automatic and 2xExtra Ammunition. You may note that I haven't talked much about Detective's Colt 1911s, that's because they just aren't that interesting, quite often you'll be playing them as the second weapon in a scenario or never at all because the other weapon is Machete or a well stocked .45 Automatic, Magnifying Glass synergies with them because you can get them in and out of play as best suits your slot capacity.

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Some 0-xp stars to put in the hunch deck in no particular order:

  • Logical Reasoning, reduced to 0 cost, this event is outright fantastic in any given scenario. If the scenario has Frozen in Fear in it try to swap this into your main deck instead so that you might consistently remove the Terror when it shows up. In any other scenario 2 points of horror heal at a happenstance moment is perfectly acceptable, especially if you judiciously supply the deck with fast events that you play immediately, to increase consistency.

  • Emergency Aid. Pretty much the same as above with Logical Reasoning. Health heal is ever so slightly less useful to you then horror but as with "Skids" O'Toole health can pose a threat surprisingly often, not to mention the relief you can give to friends.

  • Shortcut. Although you're not utilizing the discount with this one, the free move that doesn't dud a card draw and thinning your hunch deck are all useful elements to taking this in the hunch deck rather then main deck.

  • Working a Hunch. Easy to hit free clue, making full use of both discount and free action, a must have in the hunch deck even if you just burn it on an easy location.

  • Preposterous Sketches. 0-cost draw 3 cards, very good. The presence of powerful card draw in the hunch deck can make weapons and key cards a lot easier to find.

  • No Stone Unturned. Mini tutor at 0-cost. Good in a similar way to Sketches above.

Note how healthy, fast and consistent Joe can be via the hunch deck right from the start? And then some XP-hunches really knock it up a notch:

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All in all, Joe has a terrific cardpool and a strong ability. he can very reliably do the job of monster killer or cluehound as needed by the team, or outright do both at the same time, as he gains XP he can add cards like Physical Training, Well Prepared, Strange Solution is absolutely fantastic for him and works with Beat Cop, Well Prepared, Venturer, Emergency Cache (both of who can also replenish Fingerprint Kit) and Vicious Blow.

The really fun thing is that Joe Diamond has rather flexible deckbuilding, a specioalist who can beat away the things that try to prey on him, a who kills things efficiently then turns around to grab some clues. A switch-hitter who wields the .45 Automatic in one hand and Fingerprint Kit in the other, doing both tasks at once.

Tsuruki23 · 2568
Is it correct that you can only play 1 card per round from your hunch deck? — Caligula · 1
Top card of hunch deck is only revealed at the start of your turn, so you won't get a new one until next turn. — Django · 5154
Summoned Nightgaunt

Absolutely. Bonkers. Insane. Card.

The only downside is the cost so perhaps not the ideal fit into a resource starved or , the icons are fine so taking this in your Roland Banks or the like isn't the worst idea, most of the time youll play the icons and ever so often you will actually play it and reap an incredible mobility reward (although that Khopesh is much better than it looks).

Summoned Nightgaunt does 2 things in one action.

  • Auto-evade multiple enemies at once.

  • Long range move.

So far as I know, you can trigger the card if only just to move, do correct me if I'm wrong. So even if only for the infinite ranged move this is a great card. In single player the movement options might be rather limited when using this card, not too many locations are revealed all the time, but the auto-evade bomb is a life-saving power. Perhaps this cards greatest downside is that the move does not seem optional, I might be wrong about that though so that's even better! Obviously the card will just get better and better with added player count.

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, , of every type will love this (dont forget the other option though). who don't take too much self-inflicted horror or resist it will like it too. I guess the only faction that's not particularly interested is . I'dd still like to say that in Forgotten age this asset would be well-liked by everyone and anyone.

Tsuruki23 · 2568
I got this in The Forgotten Age as Daisy Walker and it was absolutely amazing. I mostly didn't use it to move, I used it to repeatedly tank entire armies of bad guys while they were slaughtered by my team-mates. — Katsue · 10
Re: the rules issues, my take is that you must be engaged with an enemy because the card has the Evade keyword, but you can move to the location you're already at. — Katsue · 10
This is a pretty sweet card, but it does only have 3 whistles (and gets removed from the game when it leaves play), and I don't think there's any cards that can replace the whistles. It is pretty nuts though. It's like 3 better Elusives (better because it actually exhausts the enemies) — Zinjanthropus · 230
Khopesh of the Abyss

This does not look like a good weapon. Don't judge a sword by its.... Scabbard?

characters don't like it because it is only so-much better then a Machete or .45 Automatic and takes away a slot or you intend to get a big gun later anyway. But then. Whats the harm in an additional big weapon that doesn't count against deck slots? Consistency and efficiency is the name of the game and this big-ass sword is a great way to add a little weapon-finding consistency to your deck mid-campaign.

Non- might have dramatically different opinions. The massive +3 to hit can turn a mediocre fighter into a warmachine. "Skids" O'Toole, Finn Edwards, Diana Stanley, fighting at +6. Rita Young or Silas Marsh with their inability to gain superior in-faction weapons that will last them an entire scenario will be looking at Timeworn Brand as a main weapon, if you happen to find one of these on the way that'd be outright awesome, if only for consistency's sake!

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So, with the "who wants it" covered, lets look at what it does.

Its an infinite use +3 +1 damage weapon, at this moment that's the largest + infinite weapon in the game. So damn yes that's got the attention of the fighty characters.

And then there's the ability to literally teleport around the map, to wherever more opponents might hide. This ability wont always be useful. In solo you can expect a couple maps per campaign where you're chasing a Doom carrier or some scenario specific agent, the saved actions as you shift around the map, batman-style, are terrific, but definitely not always useful. This ability ramps up very quickly in usefulness when you're fighting the threats that come into play in a 3 or 4-player game though, also note that the Khopesh lets you bypass the Aloof keyword.

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So yes, I don't think this is ever a bad weapon to put into a deck that's interested in killing enemies and not hugely dependent on hand slots. Even if it's not as good as a Lightning Gun, just keep in mind the importance of consistency.

Tsuruki23 · 2568
Technically, Hungering Blade can get up to +3, but it takes a lot of time to do that, and you might take some horror if you draw Bloodlust at the wrong time. I think it's also worth mentioning that Dr. Elli Horowitz can grab this sword for you, as it's a relic. Ornate Bow is much better for this with Ursula, but I think some Jim decks also run Elli. Might be pretty good with him. — Zinjanthropus · 230